Comments on: ExpressionEngine vs. WordPress – First Impressions http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/ SEO, PPC, Web Design & Optimization Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:56:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: zander http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-1562 zander Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:45:01 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-1562 I've also seen many 40 plugins posts... I've also seen an endless amount of unneccessary or worthless opinions on the internet. You should know by now that those pages are there to attract people who don't know what they are doing to websites with advertising - don't believe evereything you read! I'm not here to slate EE - it seems great. But I am here to say that Wordpress is also great as a CMS. Some people would argue that using plugins instead of core functionality is a good thing - it adds more variety and spice to websites. Having said that there is are a cone or two (i mean literally one or two) essential plugins to make wordpress a great CMS. It takes me two minutes to install them, adds custom field functionality and saves me (or my client) $300. Its also a great blogging platform - really easy to use for beginners. Don't mistake that for basic or narrow range though - to me its simplicity for the end user is one of its strongest features. I’ve also seen many 40 plugins posts… I’ve also seen an endless amount of unneccessary or worthless opinions on the internet. You should know by now that those pages are there to attract people who don’t know what they are doing to websites with advertising – don’t believe evereything you read!

I’m not here to slate EE – it seems great. But I am here to say that WordPress is also great as a CMS. Some people would argue that using plugins instead of core functionality is a good thing – it adds more variety and spice to websites. Having said that there is are a cone or two (i mean literally one or two) essential plugins to make wordpress a great CMS. It takes me two minutes to install them, adds custom field functionality and saves me (or my client) $300.

Its also a great blogging platform – really easy to use for beginners. Don’t mistake that for basic or narrow range though – to me its simplicity for the end user is one of its strongest features.

]]> By: zander http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-1561 zander Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:36:44 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-1561 I'm surprised at your comments. While I agree that perhaps the writer of this post should play more with EE first - you clearly haven't fully explored wordpress before writing it off. Wordpress requires one small plugin - custom field templates - to enable the custom field functionality of EE. It then allows you to place shortcodes into the template iincredibly easily. This isn't an out of the box feature - agreed. But it takes 2 minutes (literally) to implement is well supported and incredible flexible and is FREE. As far as I'm concerned, there are only 2 flaws in wordpress 1) The wysiwyg editors manhandling of p and br tags 2) the poor content organisation from the back end - I think it could be easier to find pages. Otherwise. Yes you can build websites with it. Yes its really flexible and easy to use. Yes its client friendly. Yes its a great, free CMS. You just need to know how to use it - like any system. 1- I’m surprised at your comments. While I agree that perhaps the writer of this post should play more with EE first – you clearly haven’t fully explored wordpress before writing it off.

Wordpress requires one small plugin – custom field templates – to enable the custom field functionality of EE. It then allows you to place shortcodes into the template iincredibly easily. This isn’t an out of the box feature – agreed. But it takes 2 minutes (literally) to implement is well supported and incredible flexible and is FREE.

As far as I’m concerned, there are only 2 flaws in wordpress
1) The wysiwyg editors manhandling of p and br tags
2) the poor content organisation from the back end – I think it could be easier to find pages.

Otherwise. Yes you can build websites with it. Yes its really flexible and easy to use. Yes its client friendly. Yes its a great, free CMS. You just need to know how to use it – like any system.
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]]> By: John Crenshaw http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-1200 John Crenshaw Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:16:22 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-1200 Hi Jim, I do feel WP is an adequate CMS for a standard website. I feel it's often-times the best CMS for a "standard" site...and by standard I mean a layout NOT employing multiple text columns / sections. Once you start talking about multiple content areas, columns of text, and other things that I would consider non-standard, WordPress falls a bit short. However, WP3.0 may make all that a bit easier. As for the best CMS for a standard site...like I said, it's been my experience that WP is usually the best. On more complicated sites, to be quite honest, I haven't found a best CMS yet...I tend to prefer a custom solution in those cases...or to build on top of a framework like <a href="http://www.codeigniter.com" rel="nofollow">CodeIgniter</a>. I have high hopes for the new version of ExpressionEngine, and while I haven't had time to test out the beta, it's built on CodeIgniter, which (hopefully) means it'll be simple to add on to if it turns out to be lacking in some areas. I've heard good things about Drupal, but you generally have to be on top of upgrades with open source software and Drupal hasn't had a simple upgrade path in past versions, so I'm unlikely to give it a try anytime in the near future. Hi Jim, I do feel WP is an adequate CMS for a standard website. I feel it’s often-times the best CMS for a “standard” site…and by standard I mean a layout NOT employing multiple text columns / sections. Once you start talking about multiple content areas, columns of text, and other things that I would consider non-standard, WordPress falls a bit short. However, WP3.0 may make all that a bit easier.

As for the best CMS for a standard site…like I said, it’s been my experience that WP is usually the best. On more complicated sites, to be quite honest, I haven’t found a best CMS yet…I tend to prefer a custom solution in those cases…or to build on top of a framework like CodeIgniter. I have high hopes for the new version of ExpressionEngine, and while I haven’t had time to test out the beta, it’s built on CodeIgniter, which (hopefully) means it’ll be simple to add on to if it turns out to be lacking in some areas.

I’ve heard good things about Drupal, but you generally have to be on top of upgrades with open source software and Drupal hasn’t had a simple upgrade path in past versions, so I’m unlikely to give it a try anytime in the near future.

]]> By: Jim Harmon http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-1136 Jim Harmon Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:38:01 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-1136 John, You mention that "WP is certainly a CMS... it's just geared toward blogging of course." Two questions: 1. Do you feel that WP is an adquate CMS for a standard website? 2. in your opinion, what is the best CMS for a standard website? Thanks John,

You mention that “WP is certainly a CMS… it’s just geared toward blogging of course.”

Two questions:

1. Do you feel that WP is an adquate CMS for a standard website?

2. in your opinion, what is the best CMS for a standard website?

Thanks

]]> By: ExpressionEngine vs. WordPress – Final Thoughts | WordPress Hacker http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-337 ExpressionEngine vs. WordPress – Final Thoughts | WordPress Hacker Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:57:55 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-337 [...] when compared to WordPress and my final thoughts on the commercial CMS from EllisLab. In a previous article I did a bit of griping about ExpressionEngine. After spending time building a full site with the [...] [...] when compared to WordPress and my final thoughts on the commercial CMS from EllisLab. In a previous article I did a bit of griping about ExpressionEngine. After spending time building a full site with the [...]

]]> By: Minnesota Attorney http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-336 Minnesota Attorney Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:42:50 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-336 Wow. Thanks for the warning. I've been hearing a lot about ExpressionEngine. You raised a number of very legitimate concerns. Thanks for the feedback. Wow. Thanks for the warning. I’ve been hearing a lot about ExpressionEngine. You raised a number of very legitimate concerns. Thanks for the feedback.

]]> By: Terrintokyo http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-335 Terrintokyo Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:24:29 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-335 thank you for this - you've expressed my frustration with EE better than I could. Even something as dead simple as duplicating a page is a hassle. I'm DIY newbie hacking stuff together, but WP is so much more intuitive and clear...sigh. anyway, thanks again for posting this. thank you for this – you’ve expressed my frustration with EE better than I could.

Even something as dead simple as duplicating a page is a hassle. I’m DIY newbie hacking stuff together, but WP is so much more intuitive and clear…sigh.

anyway, thanks again for posting this.

]]> By: litzinger http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-334 litzinger Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:58:03 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-334 I agree that if you're just running a blog, or a very simple site with a few static pages, then Wordpress might be the way to go. The two biggest features of EE are it's weblogs and custom fields. Which if you think about it a weblog is just a database table, and a custom field is a table column. Now given that you're able to create an unlimited number of weblogs and custom fields, you see that it becomes more of a framework for building a site and has very few limitations. "EE is a fast plane, Wordpress is a refined car. You won’t use the former just to go down the block." I once heard Wordpress described as the perfectly designed golden screw driver. It does what it was designed to do very very well. EE is more of a screw driver factory, where you can create whatever you want from it. I agree that if you’re just running a blog, or a very simple site with a few static pages, then WordPress might be the way to go. The two biggest features of EE are it’s weblogs and custom fields. Which if you think about it a weblog is just a database table, and a custom field is a table column. Now given that you’re able to create an unlimited number of weblogs and custom fields, you see that it becomes more of a framework for building a site and has very few limitations.

“EE is a fast plane, WordPress is a refined car. You won’t use the former just to go down the block.”

I once heard WordPress described as the perfectly designed golden screw driver. It does what it was designed to do very very well. EE is more of a screw driver factory, where you can create whatever you want from it.

]]> By: Jason T. http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-333 Jason T. Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:08:08 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-333 Good article. As others are saying, I think part of the dilemma is that while their features overlap, EE and Wordpress are geared for different things. There are some tings I don't like at all about EE, but it's a great CMS, meant to power sites much more than blogs (with different sections that need updating, multiple users with different levels of access, etc) People who have attempted to use EE purely for blogging purposes, such as myself, will find a bit of frustration when it comes to that. Wordpress is best for that hands down. I use EE for most of my client sites but will probably 'revert' back to Wordpress for my own blogs. EE is a fast plane, Wordpress is a refined car. You won't use the former just to go down the block :) Good article. As others are saying, I think part of the dilemma is that while their features overlap, EE and WordPress are geared for different things. There are some tings I don’t like at all about EE, but it’s a great CMS, meant to power sites much more than blogs (with different sections that need updating, multiple users with different levels of access, etc)

People who have attempted to use EE purely for blogging purposes, such as myself, will find a bit of frustration when it comes to that. WordPress is best for that hands down. I use EE for most of my client sites but will probably ‘revert’ back to WordPress for my own blogs.

EE is a fast plane, WordPress is a refined car. You won’t use the former just to go down the block :)

]]> By: John Crenshaw http://www.rlmseo.com/blog/expressionengine-vs-wordpress/comment-page-1/#comment-332 John Crenshaw Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:46:42 +0000 http://www.rlmseo.com/?p=487#comment-332 That looks like a great article...long though so I'll have to find some time to read through it. Thanks for the resource! That looks like a great article…long though so I’ll have to find some time to read through it. Thanks for the resource!

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